Samsung 980 Pro (250 GB, M.2 2280)

Samsung 980 Pro

250 GB, M.2 2280

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Anonymous

4 years ago

Hi Digitec, Samsung is misleadingly advertising its memory technology as "Samsung V-NAND 3-bit MLC". A 3-bit cell is a TLC (Tripple Level Cell) memory [for 2-bit=MLC (Multi Level Cell), for 1-bit=SLC (Single Level Cell)]. What Samsung is doing here is redefining the term MLC by no longer equating "multi" with 2-bit, but using it in such a way that everything that has more than 1-bit has multiple (several) bits. According to Samsung's own logic, QLC should also be called MLC, but this is obviously not the case. Because the performance of TLC memory is much lower than MLC, Samsung, like all other manufacturers, has to use a pseudo SLC cache despite the "Samsung V-NAND 3-bit MLC" technology. This cache can be over 100GB in size for a 1TB SSD; but when it is full, there is a "degrade" and the performance drops sharply. (this is known from QLC drives, where this effect is even more drastic). With SSDs with real(!) 2-bit MLC, this trick was not necessary. Unfortunately, MLC memory is practically no longer manufactured because TLC is just cheaper. Links: https://www.anandtech.com/show/16087/the-samsung-980-pro-pcie-4-ssd-review https://www.anandtech.com/show/13761/the-samsung-970-evo-plus-ssd-review https://www.anandtech.com/show/12670/the-samsung-970-evo-ssd-review The search filter "MLC" is therefore misleading for Samsung SSDs (970/EVO/PLUS/PRO, 980/Pro). As a customer, you get the impression that Samsung uses a fundamentally different technology than the competition. Despite exorbitant claims such as a write rate of 5000MB/s, only the drives from 1TB are actually able to maintain a constant write rate of 1000MB/s (1GB/s) when transferring large amounts of data (e.g. over a 10Gb/s network). For comparison, with MLC, even 256GB drives can do this easily. TLC is so slow that it really needs many chips that the SSD controller can write to at the same time to achieve comparable performance.

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Brimstone

4 years ago

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You should write a blog yourself. Great post!

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Elruuko

3 years ago

Hello all Since recently, the PS5 can run this SSD. Has anyone had experience and tested it? greetings elruuko

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Anonymous

3 years ago

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Hello Elruuko, Digitec has written an article on the PS5 with M.2 SSD, you can find it here: https://www.digitec.ch/de/page/ps5-speichererweiterung-beta-update-bringt-m2-ssd-slot-zugriff-20700 You'll find all the relevant information there. Many greetings

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Reddevil24

2 years ago

Are these the newer manufactured ones? Because the ones from 2021 are apparently all failing.

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Stardustone

2 years ago

Apparently the shine has gone off Samsung SSDs, but they were not completely defective, because there was new firmware. However, the Samsung SSDs of the 980 Pro series are no longer among the best SSDs, these three models are worlds better (by the way, the Samsung 990 Pro also have massive problems, there is also new firmware), the three here are all NVMe and they are also available in 2TB: Intel Solidigm P44 Pro (SK Hynix chips) WD Black SN850X Seagate FireCuda 530 (which has an extreme Total Bytes Written Rate of 2550 Terabytes)

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AlfonsX

2 years ago

I advise against buying Samsung NVMEs for the following reason: Samsung has found that there were problems with firmware version 3 in 2021 that make the NVMEs unusable in a very short time. The necessary firmware update is available - but can only be installed under Windows. This company policy is unacceptable, because I have paid for performance and receive poor (or no) service. Now I have to remove all my NVMEs, put them into a Windows computer, test them, update the firmware and put them back again.

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mariogruber

2 years ago

Thank you for this tip!

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slid81

2 years ago

Will the ssd fit on an Asrock Z590 extreme??and do I necessarily need the heat sink?

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Schroeffu

2 years ago

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I don't know if the M.2 fits on a Z590. The heat sinks are not mandatory, I left them out at first because they were hotter than without heat sinks (my mistake). In the meantime, I have it with a heat sink. It heats up quite quickly with heavy use, hence the cooling things, at least in my opinion.

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Shaggy99

2 years ago

Hello, I have the following problem: I am trying to install Windows 11 on my Samsung 980 Pro on my ASUS ROG Strix Z690-F Gaming Wifi, but it is not recognised by the Windows installer. I have already invested several hours in fixing the problem. BIOS recognises the m.2 hard drive, also displays it accordingly. Since I can't update the ME of the mainboard due to my Intel 13700K without working Windows, so that it works in the first slot, I put it in the second slot. Do you have another solution to this problem? I have already gone through the settings in the BIOS several times. Drivers have also been made available on the boot stick, without success. Activated CSM and also made sure that the m.2 is not configured for RAID. Please help!

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Tototolacci

2 years ago

I don't understand what exactly you mean by ME, but if it needs a working Windows for that, boot Windows on another old disk or USB stick, install what's missing in the mainboard and then put it back in the first slot.

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Bumi69

2 years ago

Hi - what is the advantage over a Kingston Fury Renegade or Curcial P5 Plus? According to the read & write rates, Kingston > Samsung > Crucial...but are there other reasons that speak in favour of Samsung compared to the others? For my Omen 16-c0709 (still with standard SSD), any of the 3 would probably be an upgrade. Even thought my Omen had a 2nd slot.... Thanks for the inputs. MFG

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Stardustone

2 years ago

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The Crucial P5 Plus is not one of the faster SSDs, that crown belongs to these SSDs: WD Black SN850X, Samsung 990, FireCuda 530, Kingston Fury Renegade (and the practically equally fast KC3000) and one that doesn't have NVRAM but is also very good, that would be the WD Black SN770, which also manages 5150 MB/s and 4900 MB/s, a very good performance for one without DRAM cache and in the PC Mark 10 Quick Benchmark it was even the best. The Samsung 980 Pro is far behind, if Samsung, then the 990, but certainly not the 980 Pro. Those days are definitely over. These are the current best (whereby the FireCuda 530 takes the cake in terms of durability, it can write approx. 2500 TB, while others can do just under half that), I would buy one of these :). Samsung 990 Pro (2000 GB, M.2 2280) WD Black SN850X (2000 GB, M.2 2280) Seagate FireCuda 530 (2000 GB, M.2 2280) Kingston KC3000 (2048 GB, M.2 2280) Kingston FURY Renegade (2000 GB, M.2 2280) WD Black SN770 (2000 GB, M.2 2280)

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SeidelB

2 years ago

The product is offered at the competition for 111 euros, which is more than 10% above the market. Competitors are Böttcher, Media-Markt, Saturn, Mindfactory. Please check the calculation. Thank you!

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DykeNE

2 years ago

Hello SeidelB, what should one do with this statement? Every consumer has to decide where to buy the product. I bought this article because it convinced me. I do not understand the meaning of the question or the statement. ! But in the end it is up to you to decide. Greetings

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