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What happens when you hook up a 65-inch TV to a PC?

If you’re into building your own PCs, the question of which screen to choose will sooner or later come up. 27-inch? 29? Or a more compact 24-inch? But how about stepping it up a notch? I’m thinking a whopping 65-inch. And I put it to the test. Why? Because I can. This is what I learned.

Looking at my desk, I’ll admit that this may not be the best idea I’ve ever had. But it is definitely a glorious one. Up to now, two 27-inch HP monitors were sitting on my desk. They perfectly served their purpose and I have nothing to complain about. But now there’s a 65-inch TV in their place.

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I like big screens. Really big ones. I’m grew up in the 1990s when the Internet was still new and everything was a bit “cyber”. Neon colours and science fiction aesthetics everywhere you looked. And one of my favourite movies: Hackers. Good times.

Sure, I know that the film stops making sense as soon as that huge screen pops up. None of it makes sense. “RISC is beautiful"? Haha. But then there were scenes like this one:

Gibson, the evil super computer with its ginormous screen

I’ve been spellbound ever since. Large screens? Yes, please! For a while now, I’ve been flirting with the idea of hooking up a TV to a PC. After all, technologically speaking, there is nothing to be said against it. HDMI out at one end, HDMI in at the other. The problems so far have been:

  1. A TV that size is expensive
  2. I have no idea if I can work with a thing like that in the real world. Just because it works in Hollywood doesn’t mean that it’s handy in real life

One fine day, Product Manager Lukas Müller invited me to a meeting. He tells me he’s looking for creative advertising ideas for a TV. As an editor, I don’t really care for advertising ideas. However, the Product Manager did have a convincing argument why I should join the meeting. With the words “Have a look at this”, he sent me this link.

  • UE65KS8080 (65", 4K, SUHD, LCD)
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He tells me the Samsung UE65KS8080 is our best-selling 65-inch TV and has therefore made many a customer happy. What’s more, the device is 13 months old by our editorial deadline that day – this combination means outstanding value for money. The Product Manager goes on to say that, basically, the TV is a high-end model at a mid-range price. Lukas gets to the point: “This TV is one of the hottest deals of the season”.

While he says this, and he undoubtedly knows what he’s talking about, I’m thinking "65 inches is a great size. No question about it. But I want it for my PC, right?”

"Is it OK if I hook it up to a PC", I ask.

"Sure", Lukas replies.

Yesss! The totally stupid yet totally awesome experiment begins!

Logistically on the tricky side

The device’s setup is typical for a TV. Because of the 65-inch screen diagonal, that’s 164 cm, the thing is pretty heavy and not really made to be moved around much. TVs are traditionally something you buy, set up somewhere and ideally only move when they're broken. And the Samsung UE65KS8080 – why on earth would you give a TV a name only your eidetic memory can remember? – is no exception. This monster of a device weights almost 30 kilos. Thankfully, it’s not far from our shop to the office.

Unpacking the thing, I realize that there is not much TV – despite its weight. The monitor is extremely thin. So thin that all the connectors are kept in a separate box. So I only plug in the Samsung connector – that’s what I’m going to call it for now – and a power cable to the TV. The rest I connect to the connection box that’s hooked up to the Samsung connector. Samsung calls this box One Connect Box.

I suspect someone in the design department did not think things through properly. The TV follows a 360-degree design philosophy. In other words, the UE65KS8080 looks great from all angles. You could set up the device in the middle of your living room and nobody would question your sanity because the back of the TV looks like a scrapyard for electronics. Ideally, you could run both cables from the middle of the room to a wall and hide the connector box as well as the plug bridge and whatever else somewhere in your bookshelf or under the sofa. However, the problem is that both the power cable and the TV cable leading to the connector box are quite short. Are the cables available in a longer version? Yes, they are. But I won’t be needing them as my desk is cable clutter central anyway.

In any case, I doubt that many of you have a strong urge to set up a TV in the middle of the living room. It’s easier to mount the TV to the wall – not least because the Samsung UE65KS8080 is only a few centimetres thick. Just hide the two cables or neatly run them along the wall. That’s it.

Not a problem as long as I can annex parts of my workmate’s desk.

But I want to have the TV on my desk. And something tells me that I want to see the UE65KS8080 from a bit further away; it is big enough, after all. That’s why I place about two thirds of the included pedestal on the opposite desk that, strictly speaking, belongs to my colleague Alina Biedermann. I’m pretty sure she won’t mind.

Here we go… or not

Setup completed; PC plugged into one of the HDMI connections.

What the…

The first problem crops up. The Samsung UE65KS8080 is a TV that supports UHD resolution. But my PC delivers no more than 1920x1080 pixels. Displayed on a screen diagonal of 65 inches that makes the pixels fist-sized.

Thankfully, we can call our in-house tech support in cases like these. Systems Engineer Jan Wihler comes to the rescue, replaces my whole PC and installs a new graphics card Category Manager Osman Erdogan happened to have in his office.

Jan Wihler getting the job done

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It's working after all. 3840x2160 pixels are a great improvement

A second sun for the office

OK, the setup’s looking great and kind of ridiculous at the same time. But looks are not important here. This is my workplace we’re talking about! A place where I need to be productive in order to provide you with new material to read. I must have had an over-ambitious spell when I told Lukas Müller that I would be using the Samsung UE65KS8080 as my office monitor for a month.

Sitting down in front of the screen for the first time is overwhelming. My entire field of vision is screen.

It’s all so gigantic.

And bright. It soon becomes clear that this screen was obviously designed to be placed at the far end of a room and compete against other sources of light. Fortunately, I can reduce the brightness to its absolute minimum. This makes looking at the screen with its 3840x2160 pixels much a lot more pleasant. Tizen, Samsung’s own Android version, is also used as the operating system for this TV. It’s very user-friendly and even the most inexperienced users should not struggle to adjust the settings to their living room – or desk in my case.

It soon dawns on me that my last bit of computer privacy has gone. No matter what I do, I’m convinced even the people in the opposite building can see. This is a particularly sensitive matter when I’m dealing with exclusive pre-release product information. After all, my gigantic screen does encourage spying and therefore infringing non-disclosure agreements.

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I don’t mind my workmates seeing what’s on my screen; however, from a security point of view, I’m not too relaxed if everyone in the opposite building can do, too. After all, unlike the graphic designers and editors in my office, the nine-to-fivers opposite are not necessarily on my side and interested in keeping product secrets. So it doesn’t take me long to realize that a screen of such epic proportions does not go well with confidential content and close proximity to windows.

And frankly, I also feel like a bit of a clown when I’m watching YouTube videos. But I have no choice. After all, wouldn’t it be a wicked waste if I didn’t use this awesome TV to find out what happens when I stream 8k?

So what happens? The image is mind-blowing despite the fact that the TV’s resolution is not up fot 8k. But take my word for it, it’s worth it! Strongman Brian Shaw is larger than life! I can only begin to imagine what a BluRay feature film would look like. Unfortunately, that was not part of my test. Right at the start, I didn’t think I’d miss the movie experience. I regret that now.

Luckily, my workmate Phil Rüegg tested TVs for their feature film capability.

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"Isn’t your neck sore?"

My stupidly huge screen setup attracts co-workers from departments far and wide. They all want to ask me questions or sit in my office chair. A little bit of advice: If you want to make friends in the company you work for, just put a 65-inch screen on your desk and, hey presto, they will appear! There was one question I was asked over and over again.

Isn’t your neck sore?

The answer is no. However, the answer comes with a but.

I generally work in full screen mode. Although I like the window feature of the Windows operating system – and that’s what gave it its name – I also enjoy images when they’re big and dominant. There’s no way I can do this with the Samsung UE65KS8080 as it would make work incredibly impractical. Sure, I’m free to display a ten-page Word document side by side in it’s original size but that’s not really practical.

Have you ever questioned your eye movement or the position of windows?

I start rearranging the windows so that they follow the logic of my gaze. In other words, the natural movement of eyes. Therefore, my main window is located at the lower middle – the area I naturally look at when I’m looking straight ahead.

I open the second window with all my multimedia content, i.e. YouTube videos or podcasts such as SwordAndScale, a little further above to the right. My research window containing all the open tabs I need for my research is at the bottom left. The top left is fairly empty as that’s where I miss out on pop-ups and other stuff. Our internal chat system: bottom right. E-mails: bottom left.

No more need to superimpose windows. That’s so, so cool!

What would be even cooler: If I could move data with gestures. Like in “Minority Report”.

If John Anderton gets to do it, why shouldn’t I?

The lowdown

So what have I learned from this experiment? Nobody ever questioned the technical feasibility, as the technology is obviously compatible. I have come to two conclusions: I like my screens. That’s screens with an s. I prefer working with several screens because the window arrangement just feels easier. Yes, FEELS easier. That needn’t be true in the technological sense but it saves you worrying about “Which window should I put where?”. Several screens simply feel more natural.

However, I did enjoy my entire field of vision being jam-packed with, well, screen and information. But I did start to miss my fellow editors. It was weird to go for days without seeing Alina Biedermann who sits just opposite me. She, in turn, declared herself my “narrator’s voice”.

Nevertheless, I did learn something a bit technological-philosophical about the role of the television. The television has changed. It’s no longer just a device that’s put in a corner and made to entertain us. You can now realize interesting multi-media projects with a TV as it has an operating system. In the case of the Samsung UE65KS8080, it’s Samsung’s very own Android version Tizen. With regard to the Samsung Galaxy S8 and all its possibilities for interacting with other smart devices, things could get really interesting.

In other words, the 65-inch PC monitor isn’t even half bad. The only obstacle could be the graphics card that needs to deliver the respective performance. Otherwise, the pixels are fist-sized. But with a decent GPU, the image is razor-sharp at a distance of 60 cm. Being a screen freak, I can safely say: A larger screen with UHD resolution is also worth getting for small rooms. The old wives’ tale “don’t sit too close or you’ll get square eyes” has definitely passed its prime. Nice.

I’m sure I’ve had better ideas in my life than putting an enormous screen on my desk. But I tell you one thing: I’ve rarely had more glorious ideas.

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User EOSbrm

@Dominik
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Schon auf 9gag unterwegs 😅

17.04.2017
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User Dominik Bärlocher

Habe ich gesehen. Ich bin da als DigitecDom unterwegs und geb Antworten wo ich kann. Danke für den Hinweis.

17.04.2017
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User noSuchUsername

Tizen ist keine Android-Variante, sondern ein weiteres Betriebssystem aufbauend auf dem Linux-Kernel.

16.04.2017
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User Anonymous

Also eine Distribution :P

17.04.2017
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User batosei

Guter Bericht, da man dir schon eine GTX1080 eingebaut hat, hast du evtl. auch mal ein paar Games versucht? Das würde mich am meisten Interessieren. Zusammenspiel von PC Games mit einem "Fernseher". Wie die Technologie mittlerweile zusammen gekommen ist.

15.04.2017
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User Anonymous

Habe ich schon vor 3J gemacht ^^ Solllte kein Problem sein.
Kommt halt drauf an was man spielt. Aber gemütlich vom Sofa aus Skyrim oder SWTOR spielen konnte ich ohne Probleme.
Anno und Hitman war auch einfach genial. einfach mal ausprobieren..

18.04.2017
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User Dominik Bärlocher

Das ganze Setup war im Büro. Leider bin ich da nicht zum Gamen gekommen. Das grafisch höchste, was ich gemacht habe, war die 8k-Streaming-Aktion. Ich denke aber nicht, dass es besonders sinnvoll ist, auf diese Distanz zu gamen, weil die Haupt-Action muss im näheren Blickfeld, also am unteren Rand des Bildschirms, im mittleren Drittel, passieren. Sonst verpasst du es.

18.04.2017
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User Anonymous

Leider haben manche TVs eine dermassen lange Reaktionszeit, dass ausser mehr relaxten Games wie Rocket League oder Stardew Valley nichts drinn liegt.

18.04.2017
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User Anonymous

Beim TV unbedingt auf den Bildmodus achten und diesen auf PC oder ähnliches umstellen (statt Movie, Sport, etc...). Dadurch werden keine Bildkorrekturen berechnet, was ja die Grafikkarte des PCs schon erledigt hat. Der InputLag sollte dann minimal werden, da direkt die HDMI Signale auf den Bildschirm ausgegeben werden können.

10.07.2017
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User bluewatercat

Cool, was würdet ihr den empfehlen für eine Kiste, denke eine Graka mit 1080 müsste dann schon her oder ? TV ist ein Sony KD-75XE9005 4K TV

07.05.2018
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User Anonymous

gibt doch Software (weiss den namen grad nicht mehr) mit der man einen grossen Bildschirm in quasi "virtuelle" Bildschirm unterteilen kann. dann können die Fenster auch einfacher angeordnet werden.
hab hier immer noch ein Setup mit 3 Samsung Syncmaster 940b (19" 4:3), was ich als ideal empfinde.

15.04.2017
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User Nerothank

Ich persönlich verwende DisplayFusion; damit geht das mitunter. Ob Du diese Applikation meintest, weiss ich aber natürlich nicht ;)

16.04.2017
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User ricosuter

Ich verwende dafür Divvy: mizage.com/windivvy/

18.04.2017
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User Anonymous

Ich hatte früher 2 24 Zöller mit Full HD. Das wäre die gleiche Pixeldichte wie 1 48 Zöller mit 4K. Ich empfand das immer als ziemlich pixelig. Deshalb kann ich mir nicht vorstellen, wie man mit 4K auf 65 Zoll zufrieden sein kann. Aber eben: Jedem Tierchen sein Pläsierchen. ;-)

16.04.2017
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User Anonymous

Habe auch schon einen versuch mit samsung uhd 52" gemacht. War mir dann zu gross. Bin jetzt mit phillips uhd 40 zoll pc monitor unterwegs.
Mein ziek ist ganz klar der neue phillips 40 oder 42 monitor, aber CURVED!
Wenn man so nah sitzt macht curved erst richtig sinn.
PS: hatte am anfang tripple 27"

15.04.2017
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User xrosso

Früher hiess es bei mir, nicht so nahe am TV sonst wirst du Blind und Heute so..... :D

18.04.2017
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User JTR.ch

Früher hatten wir aber auch noch CRTs mit flimmernden Zeilenaufbau. Heute hast du die entsprechende Frequenz auf der ganzen Fläche verteilt. Ein enormer Unterschied und es beschiessen dich auch nicht andauernd Elektronen. Vor einem heutigen Display kannst du so nah sitzen wie du willst, es gibt keine nachweisliche gesundheitlichen Nachteile.

19.04.2017
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User herbetotem

Wir setzen bei uns in der Software-Entwicklung 55 Zöller Curved ein. Daneben einen "normalen" PC-Bildschirm für statische Ausgaben (z.B. Outlook, Debugger). Gibt perfekte Uebersicht!
Der Fernseher will einzig nach einiger Zeit in den Standby-Modus wechseln, da er den HDMI.In nicht prüft.

18.04.2017
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User rene.john

So und nun mal technischer Schnickschnack weg, hin zu ergonomischer Rückmeldung:
1. Irgendwelche körperlichen Veränderungen nach dem Arbeitstag?
2. Klagen über Kopfschmerzen, Augenweh, Veränderung Sichtfeld oder -wahrnehmung bei Pausen/ nach der Arbeit?
3. Haltungsbeschwerden wegen Distanz?

Danke

20.04.2017
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User Dominik Bärlocher

1. Nein
2. Nein
3. Nein

Ich hoffe, geholfen zu haben. :)

20.04.2017
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User forcefeedme

1. Kommt
2. Schon
3. Noch

23.04.2017
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User sergey

kann ich bestätigen. ich arbeite seit 3 Jahren mit einem solchen Setup (55 inch HD als primärer Arbeitsmonitor) upl.co/uploads/201612051653...

ist super. hat meine Haltung vor allem deutlich verbessert, und auch die Augenprobleme waren weg (als ich 14h+ pro Tag am kleinen Notebook war, hatte ich Augenschmerzen abends).

08.07.2017
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User Cannaprn

Wie sieht es mit rote Augen, Augen brennen und Kopfschmerzen aus? Haben Sie da auch erfahrungen gemacht^^

15.04.2017
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User Dominik Bärlocher

Anfangs haben die Augen etwas gebrannt, aber dann habe ich die Bildschirmhelligkeit auf Null runtergedreht. Dann ging das super. Sonst weder Kopfschmerzen noch sonstwas. Rein vom Standpunkt der Gesundheit her funktioniert das Setup einwandfrei, würde ich sagen.

18.04.2017
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User doppelhelix

Hi Dominik! Jetzt musst du nur noch herausfinden wie das Monitorpanel die Helligkeit reguliert. Tut sie dies per PWM (Pulse width modulation) ist es nicht flicker-free und sollte sogenannte eye strains verursachen. Vorschlag für die Monitorsektion auf digitec.ch: Einen "Range Slider mit "von und bis" Werten für die Monitorgrössen und Auflösungen. Somit kann ein Bereich festgelegt werden, anstatt alle Grössen einzeln auszuwählen. z.B. >= 32" && < 44"

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User balzane

dommage que les articles ne soient pas traduits. Vos clients ne parlent pas tous allemand.

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User Anne Chapuis

Bonjour Balzane
Merci pour votre commentaire. Malheureusement, nous ne sommes qu'une toute petite équipe pour la traduction et n'avons donc pas toujours les capacités pour tout traduire. Mais nous faisons tout notre possible pour couvrir un maximum d'articles. Merci pour votre compréhension.

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User david.leruitte

Au vu de la taille de votre entreprise vous pourriez faire un effort. Les chefs devraient voir plus loin que le bout de leur nez et arrêter de penser à la rentabilité à tout prix. La qualité et l'amélioration du service client n'est pas une perte mais un investissement sur la réputation et l’appréciation qu'on vos clients de votre entreprise. A bon entendeur...
PS : C'est juste pour apporter au débat, l'article est traduit et vous êtes pas si mal quand on regarde ailleurs ;)

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User moon_knight

Pour moi, ils battent de très loin Amazon... A tous les niveaux.

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User umino

löblicher Beitrag und durchaus witzig. LEIDER.. und als alternder Forumsblogger ergänzend hinzufügend, fehlt mir die jeweilige direct eingepflegten Videos wie man was anpasst, also wie die einzelnen angeregten und spannenden Hinweise eingebracht warden können OHNE dabei endlos scrollen zu müssen ;)

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User jörgkaufma

Interessant, diese Erfahrung kennen zu lernen. Ich tendiere aber zum den umgekehrten Weg, den PC mit Monitor als Multimedia-Gerät auch zum Fernsehen nutzen.
Ein Fernseher ist zu sehr für seinen Zweck ausgelegt. Er mag zwar als zweckentfremdetes Gerät, wie man sieht, geeignet sein, aber nicht ideal.

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User Trident62

dieser Test find ich super. Ich habe mich auch schon gefragt, wie sich das auswirkt. Ich denke mit meinem i7-4790K und einer GTX1080 sollte mir nichts im Wege stehen. Vielleicht nicht gerade ein 65" aber die Idee einen TV zu benutzen wird für mich immer realistischer. Ich besitze 3 Dell 24" 2008.

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User smb1234

Hm...ich hab dieselbe 4K Auflösung auf meinem 15" XPS 15 Notebook. Beim 65" hat man damit noch 65 dpi, was schon arg grenzwertig ist auf die Distanz. Aber jedem das seine, danke fürs teilen.

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User gregorstra

Bei mir steht seit ein paar Wochen ein Samsung UE49KU6170 auf dem Schreibtisch als externer Bildschirm meines Arbeits-Notebooks, angesteuert via aktivem Dispaly Port zu HDMI 2.0 Adapter. Mittlerweile frage ich mich, wie ich vorher arbeiten konnte, und wie ich wohl mobil werde arbeiten können ;-)

18.04.2017
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User Anonymous

RISC ist tatsächlich beautiful und steckt übrigens in all deinen Smart Devices: ARM ist nämlich ein RISC Prozessor.

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User StageSolutions

Im Film ist wohl eher RISC OS gemeint: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC_... - das wurde damals vor allem von Geeks als das fortschrittlichste Betriebssystem angesehen - ähnlich wie später Linux. Konnte sich aber (leider ?) nicht durchsetzen.

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User Anonymous

Hm zum Filme schauen sicher nicht schlecht, aber zum Gamen komplett ungeeignet, da der Imput Lag in Games wohl vernichtend sein wird. Desweiteren leiden die meisten TVs an starkem Schlieren, da nützt auch der Game Mode nicht viel...

19.04.2017
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