I would consider doing the upstream with a UniFi AP, so everything stays in the same family:
https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002262328-UniFi-Configuring-a-Wireless-Uplink
Unfortunately, unlike the USG, an internet connection with a UI account is required to set up the UDM. The only thing that helps is a good password and 2FA. Deactivating or revoking rights is also not possible with the UI account, although another local "super admin" account has been set up...
This is an all-in-one unit.
The unit includes:
Unifi controller
Firewall
4 port Giga-Switch
and an access point
So practically you can replace the USG and the controller. What's pretty fancy is that the UDM delivers full gigabit speed with IDS/IPS according to others.
We are always working to clean up and complete our product data. Unfortunately, some of these errors do occur, thank you for pointing them out, I will pass them on to the relevant department for revision.😊
No this version of the UniFi Dream Machine does not come with PoE ports. The one that has PoE ports is called UniFi Dream Router. It is the most recent version of this device.
According to the UI, the software Unifi Protect version 1.20 or newer is required (https://eu.store.ui.com/eu/en/collections/unifi-camera-security-bullet-enhanced-ai/products/uvc-ai-bullet), which you should have on the Dream Machine. For the Bullet you also need POE so that it has power.
The UDM base does not have wifi6. The comparison from the link refers to the Dream Router, which looks the same. It does have wifi6. So do not confuse the two, even if they look almost the same.
In any case, the UDM has a fan that is unfortunately much too loud for the bedroom, depending on the load. The LEDs, on the other hand, can all be switched off, which I just tested. To be fair, I have to say that I only noticed the fan was so loud after I switched on the "Threat Management". Of course, this means that the UDM has a much higher load than without this option.
One of the reasons for me to stop ordering from Digitec and Galaxus. It's all opaque and the Marketplace adds to the chaos of price and availability. And then there's also the development in Putin-friendly foreign countries. The managers for profit maximisation have taken over and pushed out the nerds from before.
There are a few entries on this in the Ubiquiti forum - just google them.
As a general hint: the UDM is quite good, but by far not for the simple user. Definitely a prosumer device - you should have some knowledge of networking under Linux. Besides, the firmware (incl. controller) is beta at best.
But when it runs, it is quite stable and reliable.
Mine is running at 68-71 Celsius and housing feels hot, but the CPU temp indicator says “good”. So it appears normal but does not ‘feel’ normal. There are many such observations in various Unifi community sites, but no magic solutions. It does work fine but I am moving it to a cooler place as a precaution.
How to get this product work with Sunrise incl. the VOIP and IPTV
Hello guys: I found a workaround. You can connect your WAN cable to a 4 port switch that should be able to support 10/100/1000 Mbs, something like Netgear. One connection goes to your Unifi device (WAN port), the other one goes to your IP Telephone and the 3rd to your IPTV.
Please note:
1) If you have a fiber optic, you need to buy the following Media Converter: converter Zyxel MCT-3002W2SFP-DR to convert your fiber cable to LAN. You can use the Sunrise fibre module to connect the module to the media converter.
2) For sunrise the VLANs IDs is the following:
Internet 131
IP telephone 117/5
IPTV 121
Before you connect your IPTV and your IP Telephone, you need to configure the VLAN ID correctly in all your devices to get it to work.
This solution has been tested.
I made this workaround until Unifi comes with a solution.
How this product works with Sunrise including VOIP and IPTV
Hello folks
I have found a workaround. You can connect your WAN cable to a 4 port switch that should support 10/100/1000 Mbs, for example Netgear. One connection goes to your Unifi device (WAN port), the other to your IP phone and the third to your IPTV.
Please note the following:
1) If you have fibre, you will need to purchase the following media converter: Zyxel MCT-3002W2SFP-DR converter to convert your fibre to LAN. You can use the Sunrise fibre module to connect the module to the media converter.
2) For Sunrise, the VLAN IDs are as follows:
Internet 131
IP telephone 117/5
IPTV 121
Before connecting your IPTV and your IP phone, you need to configure the VLAN ID correctly on all your devices for the whole thing to work.
This solution has been tested.
I did this workaround until Unifi found a solution.
It probably depends a bit on how big the chest of drawers is and whether there are any other appliances next to it that can get warm, but I personally can't recommend it.
I have the Dream Machine on an open shelf and it runs at a constant 61°C without you hearing the fans. I think 61°C is rather warm compared to the Asus AC-RT86u I had before. And during certain situations, such as installing updates or other testing, the UDM can get much warmer and louder.
The device actually looks quite OK, so it's almost a shame if it stays hidden in the dresser.
Do I need a UI account to set up and operate the UDM? Or can it also be set up locally like a USG 3P?
Of course it can be advantageous to access and adjust the UDM via cloud access (remote access). But for me, this access is a no-go for a router that should block attacks and access from outside and protect the network. All settings and passwords (even if encrypted) are stored in the cloud. In the event of a hack on Ubiquiti (which has already happened), these would be leaked.
I was therefore surprised that the Ui account requirement was never mentioned or discussed here. After all, for me, that's the purchase decision. In the meantime, can you do the whole setup locally (for example, even without internet)?
In principle, this is possible, but it requires a few settings (if possible in the Sunrise Box). Therefore, the question would be whether there is access to the Sunrise Box in order to make the UDM connected to it an 'exposed host', for example. If this is possible, it works, although the combination is not ideal due to the double NAT. Shares, if they are to be accessible from the Internet, must then always be entered in the UDM and the Sunrise Box. The best thing to do is to search for 'UDM behind Fritz!Box', which is a different (popular) router in Germany, but then you will quickly get a few hits and can read up on the subject. Then you have to see to what extent this can be transferred to the Sunrise Box.
I "only" have Hybrid7 from Init7 - so I don't know if this also applies to Fiber7. However, it is the case that for Hybrid7 it is not sufficient as the only device. It still needs an optical-to-copper signal converter and also PPPoE must be used in the DreamStation when configuring the WAN connection (DHCP is not supported by Init7 for Hybrid7). The problem is, Init7 requires a special VLAN ID, which unfortunately cannot be configured via the DreamStation's setup wizard. I had to connect the DS to another router to get through the initial setup wizard. I was then able to set the VLAN ID in the system settings and connect the DS directly to the internet again (i.e. without an intermediate router).
The manufacturer Unifi probably didn't think this through or simply implemented the software badly.
The best thing to do is to briefly check with Init7 whether the setup via DHCP works with Fiber7. If not, and you also have to do PPPoE, then you need a second router temporarily for the initial setup in order to be able to set up the device at all.
Hi Tim, More info needed.
I am an IT Pro by profession with extended experience in networking / wireless signals.
If you can please WhatsApp me 0763751768 as i don’t think i can assist you with a 3000 char limit in this box.
First thing to know is that the software driving the UDM is unreliable, the reason my testing of the product finished quickly.
assuming LAN. you need to ensure your selecting the exact same server when using speed test, the results you get back from speed test, even on the same servers will vary from day to day due to the traffic that populates the CH backbone.
but you can expect results that are approximately near each other. (my advise, select Nexcellence or iWay - i do work in both of those data centres, they are solid speed test services).
next ensure your using the exact same cable on both devices, different category cables will provide differnt results, and even some cables of the same category will provide different results based on how they are manufactured. sortof what Yakovlev has said. although if Yakovlev is experiancing issues which a SFTP cable solves, he has other problems in his environment.
Shielded cables do provide protection from interference but in a home, this should not be necessary.
once you have done these tests. note down the results and try again with a different machine. (eliminates system issues from results) and for all the tests make sure your using a wire.
If you are looking for a product recommendation that will check all the boxes of "awesome" and come at a similar price tag. get a synology rt2600
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Dan
no i have not, basically my plan was to really rigorously test this device. but even on the basics the UI and functionality failed miserably. their customer support, terrible, and their technical support extremely poor. I had plans to check out the company in all aspects and if they met expectations i would integrate them into our 5 sites "business". the Dream Machine was just to get a feel for how the company worked and how the product was, I am an IT Director "fyi" and their technical support was my first point to drop them, and the latency, slowness, and failure to work things which should have been automatic, was my second. Product returned. Get a synology rt2600 instead "home" or Meraki "business"
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